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Equity / Show Range screens

edited May 2018 in APT Questions

Hi guys

I'm using the Show Range / Equity calculator a lot during games and training exercises.

The way of presenting the information, ordered by hand type, feels like an un-intuitive way of thinking through their hand.

Clicking the "More" button then breaks down their hand according to Equity range (0-20, 20-40 etc) which for me requires some further mental gymnastics to arrive at an equity for that group of hands.

Wouldn't the classic "Hand Range" chart be a better starting point for equity calculations? I try to picture their range as a hand chart, with areas shaded according to the hands I think they're playing, and then I think about which areas of that chart have me beaten and which I am ahead.

I could be wrong, its still early days for me and maybe it will fall into place and suddenly become the obvious way to think about it, but I find it very hard to start with the possible hand types and then consider which hands they could have with that hand type.

Does that make sense?

Thanks for any advice!


  • SteveBlay

    Hi benissimo, thanks for the comment. You're right that a complete 13 x 13 hand chart is a more complete way to look at the information. But, I also find it difficult to process all that information at once. And, really you can't just show 169 hands, you have to show all 1326 possible starting hands because suits matter. Sometimes AhKs might be in your opponent's range because of a flush draw, whereas AdKs might not.

    For that reason, we arrived at the current format (but I admit it's not perfect) to attempt to provide as much useful information as possible, without information overload. For me, the best button to click on once you've opened the Show Range tool is the green "Details" button. This allows you to look at various combo hands your opponent could have that you might have missed (such as backdoor flush + straight draw + overcards) -- hands that seems innocuous but could be good semi-bluffing hands.

    I think scanning over the various example hands lets you see some of the possibilities, to see if you're missing anything, while not being too overwhelming with information.

    At least that was our thought process in designing the tool in its current form.


  • apt_gs

    It make sense. However, I think that being able to see what hands you are likely to be behind/ahead of along with your equity helps to sharpen your on the fly analysis.

  • SteveBlay

    @apt_gs said:
    It make sense. However, I think that being able to see what hands you are likely to be behind/ahead of along with your equity helps to sharpen your on the fly analysis.

    Yes, for that I would say go back over to the Equity screen that benissimo originally mentioned, and click on some of the individual hands in there to see your exact equity against that hand.

  • benissimob

    I agree that its very useful to consider which hands you are likely to be behind/ahead of.
    For me the steps to do that are to think through their possible starting hands, and then out of those hands checking off those that have me beat against those I'm ahead.
    It seems the equity screen works through each poker hand, from nothing up to royal flush, and then determines what hole cards he could have that would make that hand. And then it estimates how often he might have those hole cards.

    I guess in the end I would hope to arrive at roughly the same equity result, just via a different route.
    Thanks for the replies!

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