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Baffled by the Advisors Advice

zilla16nyz
zilla16ny

5/10 blinds

1K effective

I limp in MP with 55

SB raises to 40, and the BB calls.

Action back to me, and all 28 advisors recommend FOLD.

How is calling the 30 raise this deep, and IN POSITION post flop a unaminous fold?

This seems like real bad advice, no?

Comments

  • 1warlock
    1warlock

    Other than I'd prefer to open 55 from MP rather than limp, I can't see it being a bad play to see a flop here. You have deep enough stacks that set mining is profitable and the SB can be raising a huge range and attacking what he may consider to be dead money. If you think you can get paid at least 20:1 if you hit your set, I'd say go for it. Facing 2 other players who at the very least like their hands, I'd think you are getting some action if you make your set. Being in position makes this an easy call for me.

  • zilla16nyz
    zilla16ny

    Concerning to be a new paying member, and not have this answered yet.

    I can guarantee not one pro, limps, and fold here to a 30.00 raise.

    In fact, the fact it was raised makes the 55 even more attractive because that means the person raising from the SB likely has a big hand which you NEED to maximize implied odds.

    Hopefully Ill get a response here soon.

  • magicjack69
    magicjack69

    @1warlock said:
    Other than I'd prefer to open 55 from MP rather than limp, I can't see it being a bad play to see a flop here. You have deep enough stacks that set mining is profitable and the SB can be raising a huge range and attacking what he may consider to be dead money. If you think you can get paid at least 20:1 if you hit your set, I'd say go for it. Facing 2 other players who at the very least like their hands, I'd think you are getting some action if you make your set. Being in position makes this an easy call for me.

    i agree with Warlock for sure

    if you would have looked into the BRAIN function of the game it was probably advising to fold to a raise with 22-66 and flatting with 77+

    its also possible if you would have opened with a raise and the other player re raised you it would still advise the fold with 22-66.

    but the bots don't seem to re raise unless they have QQ+ so its very possible if you would have came in with a raise they would have just flatted it with a bigger pair or AQ, AK kinds of hands

    over all you'll find out that the coaches are very helpful but their will be spots that you'll make plays that even all 28 disagree with...this is a good example as even if I would have limped I as well would have called the raise.....I feel its a OK play to make

  • pgearan
    pgearan

    @zilla16ny said:
    Concerning to be a new paying member, and not have this answered yet.

    I can guarantee not one pro, limps, and fold here to a 30.00 raise.

    In fact, the fact it was raised makes the 55 even more attractive because that means the person raising from the SB likely has a big hand which you NEED to maximize implied odds.

    Hopefully Ill get a response here soon.

    Check out this thread, particularly Allen Blay's response that gets into how to use the advisors advice. Basically, you want to go with what you think in the action, but sometimes see what the advisor would do. Most of the time, this advice makes immediate sense, even if you don't completely agree

    https://www.advancedpokertraining.com/poker/forum/discussion/44/

    magicjack's advice to look at the BRAIN function is good. That would take you through the logic and help you determine whether there is indeed a justification you can accept. Your play is certainly defensible, and I agree often standard, but low pairs are often played a bit differently than mid-pairs and the BRAIN function oud give you some of that justification.

  • magicjack69
    magicjack69

    @pgearan said:

    @zilla16ny said:
    Concerning to be a new paying member, and not have this answered yet.

    I can guarantee not one pro, limps, and fold here to a 30.00 raise.

    In fact, the fact it was raised makes the 55 even more attractive because that means the person raising from the SB likely has a big hand which you NEED to maximize implied odds.

    Hopefully Ill get a response here soon.

    Check out this thread, particularly Allen Blay's response that gets into how to use the advisors advice. Basically, you want to go with what you think in the action, but sometimes see what the advisor would do. Most of the time, this advice makes immediate sense, even if you don't completely agree

    https://www.advancedpokertraining.com/poker/forum/discussion/44/

    magicjack's advice to look at the BRAIN function is good. That would take you through the logic and help you determine whether there is indeed a justification you can accept. Your play is certainly defensible, and I agree often standard, but low pairs are often played a bit differently than mid-pairs and the BRAIN function oud give you some of that justification.

    :smile:

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