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Poker IQ of advisors?

pennylanep
pennylane

I've had some sessions where the majority of my moves pretty closely matched my advisors, yet my IQ scores are extremely low. Do the advisors have their own IQ score? I read that the IQ scores are relative based on other people on the site, so either the few times I deviated from the recommendation had a big impact on my score, or folks on the site are much better than my advisor. It'd be very interesting if we could see what the IQ score of our advisor would have been if we followed their advice to the letter.

Here are some of my sessions where my pre-flop IQ score was extremely low:

Comments

  • AllenBlay
    AllenBlay

    When you use the advice of an advisor all the time, it becomes a game of computer vs. computer, so the IQ is meaningless. All that matters is how you compare with other people. Further, if you take the advice of the computer, your reports and training plans become meaningless because they are not based on your play, but based on advice. I strongly recommend against using the advice of the advisor as a substitute for just playing the best you can.

    The advisor IQs would be low because humans can beat computers, especially computers that are programmed to play similar to how human opponents play, especially at the lower levels of the game. The advisors should be used as a tool to see how someone you play against might play in that situation - it should not be taken as the best possible play all the time. I only look at the advisors when I am not sure what move I would like to make.

    Allen

  • pennylanep
    pennylane

    Ah, thanks, that helps a lot! I was always following my decision instead of my advisors, if they deviated, but my goal was to get to the point where our decisions never deviated. I thought every time I did something that my advisor advised against, I was doing something wrong. I see now, my goal is not a good goal to have, and becoming the computer will not actually help my game. :smiley: I will try to mix it up now.

    Thanks!

  • pennylanep
    pennylane

    The advisor IQs would be low because humans can beat computers

    Not so fast!

    https://www.npr.org/2019/07/11/740661470/bet-on-the-bot-ai-beats-the-professionals-at-6-player-texas-hold-em

    Maybe you just need to work on those algorithms. It would be really interesting to see which of your bots have the best IQ against the humans. Then I'll take that bot as my advisor. :smiley: I'm a software engineer, I may be more interested in your bot programming than actually playing poker. :smile:

  • AllenBlay
    AllenBlay

    True, computers have been beating humans at heads-up for a while and now 6-max. Our bots (and hence the advisors) aren't designed to play GTO poker because very few humans play that way. GTO is great, but against typical humans there are often ways to win MORE money by exploiting their weaknesses.

    I think you are on the right track with your strategy of mixing things up. The more you can fool your opponents, the better.

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