They Hate Me
I'm calling. + or-0 bb/100 after 340 hands? Im calling. I dont care about @1warlock 's math. I dont care about Ed Miller, Sklansky, or anything.
My cards are close, suited, pretty, and i am tilted. Im calling in position. Got it?
Oh another call? Wimpy pair likely.
Flop 9s8c5c.I have a pair and backdoor flush draw. NOT FOLDING!
Oh look wimpy pair guy C/R. Tens, A9 maybe. And Ron calls. Sweet. NOT FOLDING! No AA. No Kk for Ron. He would raise. One pair or flush draw maybe.
What? I called of course. BDFd is vital. Why? It gives me 15 outs to improve my equity instead of 5. Maybe we learned something about BDFDs today?
Turn is a spade. Isnt that nice. NOT FOLDING! Go ahead. Check evil ones. Two checks and I ship. Plenty of fold equity and plenty of outs.
But no! Wimpy pair man bets again. Def overpair now. Slight FD chance. Oh? Ron calls? He is weak. Maybe a 9 or club draw? Likely Ron folds a draw here. Def made hand.
Action to me. Guess what. NOT FOLDING! A call gets me pot committed anyway. Soooooo? One Finger salute and ship it baby!
And thats why THEY HATE ME.
39/26 = 96bb/100 on kgb 6max
Comments
@highfive - OK, you are no longer allowed to call anything I do aggro or spewy - LMAO
This hand may be one of the worst played hands I've ever seen, and I'm even including the ones I've seen from @krista.
Its the preview for every training course as the "before" picture. I can hear the ad now: "Does this look like how you play? Well, buy my video for $99.95 and you never have to suffer this type of embarrassment again." The icing on the cake for me is the screen of "NICE HAND" that popped up at the end. Fonzie just jumped the shark. LMAO pt. 2
If either of these 2 bots played the hand remotely competently, the results are different. UTG opens 6-handed and BTN flats. BB, who is described as a "challenging and loose aggressive pro" looks down at JJ and freaking calls? Seriously? What's he waiting for, pocket trips? This is as clear a decision as you get in poker, a hefty 3-bet to scoop 7.5BB or get 1 call and play a bigger pot with the 5th best starting hand in poker. If you aren't 4-bet, you eliminate AA, KK, and AK. Is it that hard to play a hand HU only behind to a single hand at the start (QQ) Ugh. I hate weak passive poker.
Flop 8c 9s 5c and BB checks to IR, who bets $38 into a $47 pot on a very wet board. Meh, not horrible but maybe size it up a bit because he flopped a super-strong combo of TP and both the straight and flush draws. Of course you call 'cause your hand is still "pretty" and you picked up the 2nd-worst 3rd pair. (I'll address your BDFD optimism later) Then Paul-bot raises to 2x pot. Strong bet and actually a decent one because that flop hits the BB defend range more than either of the other 2 players'. Of course he has no idea Ron-bot flopped a monster and apparently neither does Ron-bot because he flats the raise. Double ugh. The only play here is to re-raise large and be absolutely happy to get it all in if shoved on. I would even consider an overbet shove right then. The re-raise/shove gets rid of pesky draws like yours or charges them such a crazy price that you're thrilled if they call. It makes everything under 2-pair without a club think long and hard before calling. He is significantly ahead of all overpairs without a club (57-42 in this specific case) and even farther ahead of hands like AcQc and AcJc (58.6-40.5)-. JJ no club looks like bottom pair in the face of a play like that. A good player throws them in the muck.
The rest of the hand is pure donk all the way around but we're already so far off the rails its only a matter of where the train wreck happens. Paul-bot leads because why not? He's already butchered this hand so making one more bad decision is nearly irrelevant. Shove or check. I have no idea what that bet and size was trying to accomplish. The TAG pro now has no idea where he is, has no fold-equity left and figures "hey, lets all call 'cause that's the polite thing to do, right?" He's devalued his draw already by flatting the raise on the flop and is now a significant dog to an overpair. Then, regardless of what the advisor said, no you don't have enough outs to call this with a 5-high flush draw. Nice touch with shoving over the extra $350 though. If we're setting some money on fire, might as well do the whole stack.
Gin for you on the river and you get the chips, the sound effects and the "NICE HAND!" for your efforts. A 5-high BDFD is what you're going with on this? HU this is still optimistic. 3-way you may be counting negative outs and not counting the likelihood that at least 1 of the other 2 players had at least a spade blocker, if not a higher spade draw (the most obvious one being 7s6s that flopped the straight). Of well. Outs? We don't need no stinking clean outs. You know that any money you put in the pot after possibly the preflop BTN defense was goofy.
I did not plan to comment on this or at least not to this extent. You should be ashamed of yourself for the example you are setting for @krista and @cupcake. You should be more than ashamed for offending the sensibilities of anyone else who ever looks at this thing. For all you know, a prospective customer for the site could have looked at it and then went off to find a real training site. Maybe even decided to give up the game altogether? I may never be able to watch poker again after this. Freaking goofball you are. LOL
Fucking AWESOME,
What can I say thats my soul through and through. Sorry folks, CC has no fancy play by play why what High Five did rocks but 53 on the button ACTION with lowest pair and showing a set of nads by calling is banging. Then flush drawish and lowest pair and the call in the face of aggro. HAHAHA. Then four to a flush and still lowest pair and a raise? FUCKING LOVE IT. Hits the flush. HAHAHAHHAHA. Thats playing with HEART. Yes, HEART. Cheers, CC
Rest assured folks. I am going to keep working with @1warlock. At some point he will open up and give true opinions. Relax warlock. It's all good. Tell your opinions. Its all friendly here.
Most hands posted are bad beats or joyfully getting paid with the nuts. ( see my last posted hand) So I posted an unconventional hand which may spur debate.
I battle for pots. I dont do Sklansky, get a big hand and barrel. Not top pair on the flop? Ok well the hand isnt over yet.
Shame? No shame in my game. I do what I do. Make mistakes and move along. I should have 3bet here but Ron Bot plays AA and begrudgingly plays KK. I have seen him 3bet AK and fold to a shove for 100 bigs. The other bot had AK.
So I am not calling for card value. Im calling knowing I can get him off a hand when the board is scary. Done it many times to Ron Bot.
The other caller added an interesting wrinkle. I had him pegged all along. Btw a check raise multiway is super rare by the bots.
The thoughts I gave were not created after the hand. They were the reads during the hand. I knew about what they had without naming the actual cards. The only surprise was how strong Ron was. I expected KQc or Akc. I almost fell down when it was 97c.
There was no 67. These bots are coded to raise the nuts. Bad but thats how it is. My spades were good. I knew it.
I shoved because the bots would check fold if the spades came in. The bots dont do hero calls. My 5 and 3 were good too.
So a pair and a flush draw on the turn is 28% to improve to likely winning hand? Its a mega pot? Not folding! A call pot committs me so shove and go for all of it.
This time it played out in my favor.
Hey @cupcake,
Have to play with heart. Don't have the T.O.S. to work with. )
i love it @highfive !
5 3 suited is definitely worth open late posn (even mid maybe)
the magic number is 13 outs and that's a slight negative on a coin flip
you got 15 outs that pushing 60% (56% i believe) and YES go for it, and need hang in to the river to meet the probability
is times you get to the point for various reasons, to go to the wall with a certain hand
you picked this one to do so, cause the risk - reward was huge, and you were rewarded by the poker gods
BRAVO!!!!
Just to let everyone know. I was trying to be humorous and over the top with my post. I assumed that poker players know when they are being yanked a little but this is an online forum so I'm not sure it came across as intended. Sorry if I put anyone off. Then again, after than hand, how could anyone be offended about anything ever again? LOL Honestly, I've always joked around with other players and been on the receiving end more than I care to admit. In fact, the other day I sent about 20 hands to a good friend of mine for review. She's really top-level. I received back a response that printed to 36 pages. The email subject line was "The 10 most obvious reasons why you suck at poker". I read it, laughed, steamed and got some great info.
hey not at all @1warlock
if yah can't take a joke shouldn't be playin poker hahaha
his hand may be one of the worst played hands I've ever seen, and I'm even including the ones I've seen from @krista.
hummmmm WHACK!
LOL - I was wondering if you'd take that well, @krista. I think the social part of poker is great and being able to joke around makes all the studying and work easier.
laughs... never stop being fun!
i enjoying ACR... they give all kinds of freerolls when you are new and i playing those
you know, you see you are 198 of 3204 and get excited hahaha
doesn't hold a candle to the software of PokerStars but it different and a nice change
and is way less traffic, want play an SNG and need wait like 10-15mins... while PStars is immediate
looked at traffic just now.. example... ACR 5k... PStars 66k
give you an update played 4 x $7 SNGs PStars... lost 3, was second in one
so not having the best results... i just played a $1.50 SNG and won
got a satellite still for tomorrow some huge thing
i still having trouble get playable cards in reasonable frequency
i sure this badness no last forever, but it getting tedious
thinking of @highfive .. just had a 98s and had 15 outs on flop... poker gods werent with me hahaha
That type of poker isnt for everyone. I cycle through buyins alot. The variance-(see how i worked in that cool word @krista? ) is high. Its nothing for me to go down 2 up 4 in a single session. Or down 4 up 2 buyins. That hand was interesting bc all three players were deep stacked.
Apparently @cupcake & @krista liked it so that's more important anyway. ) @1warlock
i appreciate i new at this and @1warlock and @cupcake such brilliant players... sorry i no live up to that
i just now played a $5 SNG came second... i guess that doesnt come near to being so proficient with robots
i just no like you people putting me down - hurts my feelings
but i suppose thats part of poker
so many super star players until we wish see their actual results?
not you @highfive
ok here is one... waiting all the experts tell me what idiot i am
https://www.jivaro.com/profile/KristaK/posts/5b82429dfb4721cf2366cacd/
here one just now
https://www.jivaro.com/profile/KristaK/posts/5b82453efb4721cf2366cc33/
oh well ... not against the robots.. then means squat
Dear kcorbee,
You finished the tournament in 1st place. Congratulations! A USD 31.15 award has been credited to your Stars Account.
You have also received USD 9.20 in Knockout Bounties for this tournament. You won bounties for the following players: andreiikaPRO, jerry2104, Lehich~AA~, kcorbee
Note: As you won the tournament, you also won your own bounty.
whoops next one... must be luck ... blonde bimbo play poker 3 months and no robots... what a fluke
PokerStars Tournament #2391201990, No Limit Hold'em
Buy-In: $14.31/$0.69 USD
10 players
Total Prize Pool: $143.10 USD
Tournament started 2018/08/26 0:09:07 PT [2018/08/26 3:09:07 ET]
Dear kcorbee,
You finished the tournament in 1st place. Congratulations! A USD 42.57 award has been credited to your Stars Account.
oh wait i forget the one before those two
yeah i lose ... cause i an idiot no play the robots
PokerStars Tournament #2391150952, No Limit Hold'em
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9 players
Total Prize Pool: $40.86 USD
Tournament started 2018/08/25 21:27:28 PT [2018/08/26 0:27:28 ET]
Dear kcorbee,
You finished the tournament in 3rd place. Congratulations! A USD 6.13 award has been credited to your Stars Account.
You have also received USD 2.26 in Knockout Bounties for this tournament. You won bounties for the following players: Stavrovskiy, Maikl064
Thank you for playing at PokerStars. We hope you had fun!
@krista - congrats on the good results!
I'm curious as to why you think anyone is putting you down here. There are 4 people who post here regularly and you're 1 of them. @cupcake and @highfive have been incredibly nice to you. I think I've gone out of my way to be nice and try to encourage you. I even stopped in to say hello when you were playing on the other site. Only reason I didn't stay was because you said you were nervous with me watching. It there would have been an empty seat, I would have been happy to join you. Anyway, I just don't see anyone being mean to you at all here. If I'm wrong, please tell me what I've done.
No idea what you have against the poor robots though. It sounds to me like you're a bit robophobic. LMAO
You KNOW I have no sense of humor. You Bastard! HAHAHAHAHHA
Hey Krista,
If I have offended you in any way it was never intentional. There are times when you have asked for feedback and I have given it with the understanding that I am training for Cash games and that I am a novice as well. Basically, to take everything I say with a pound and not a grain of salt! I joke around a lot and poke fun at myself but it is never my intention to make someone feel bad here at the Forum. Not my intent at all!
Cheers,
CC